An Ol’ Broad’s Ramblings

March 15, 2007

Indoctrination

Filed under: Education, Government — olbroad @ 3:54

District gags 14-year-olds after ‘gay’ indoctrination

Officials at Deerfield High School in Deerfield, Ill., have ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a “gay” indoctrination seminar, after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents.

Excuse me? Beyond the fact that it’s not the school’s place to “indoctrinate anyone, this defies what parents want their children to do, which is BE HONEST.

In what CWA called a “shocking and brazen act of government abuse of parental rights,” the school’s officials required the 14-year-olds to attend a “Gay Straight Alliance Network” panel discussion led by “gay” and “lesbian” upperclassmen during a “freshman advisory” class which “secretively featured inappropriate discussions of a sexual nature in promotion of high-risk homosexual behaviors.”

The liberties that schools are taking, and denying to parents is a complete violation of the trust we put in our schools. It should be up to the parents whether or not they want their kids exposed to this sort of “education”, NOT the schools.

The situation, according to district Supt. George Fornero, was partly “a mistake.”

He told CWA, the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization, that requiring children to sign the confidentiality agreement wasn’t right and the district would be honest with parents in the future about such seminars. But CWA noted that even after the district was caught, parents still were being told they were not welcome to be at the “freshman advisory” and they were not allowed to have access to materials used in compiling the activist curriculum.

Parents use to pay schools directly to educate their children. They got a say in what was taught beyond the basics. Perhaps it time to return to that form of education? Remove the power from the teachers and administrators and give it back to the parents.

David and Tonia Parker and Joseph and Robin Wirthlin, who have children of school age in Lexington, Mass., brought the lawsuit. They alleged district officials and staff at Estabrook Elementary School violated state law and civil rights by indoctrinating their children about a lifestyle they, as Christians, teach is immoral.
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“Wolf’s ruling is every parent’s nightmare. It goes to extraordinary lengths to legitimize and reinforce the ‘right’ (and even the duty) of schools to normalize homosexual behavior to even the youngest of children,” said a statement from the pro-family group Mass Resistance.

There is nothing “normal” about a homosexual lifestyle (sorry Jayce). Pushing it on young kids is just wrong. We shouldn’t penalize anyone who is different, but we do not have to accept it as “normal”.

“Under the Constitution public schools are entitled to teach anything that is reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy,” the judge wrote. “Diversity is a hallmark of our nation. It is increasingly evident that our diversity includes differences in sexual orientation.”

Where in the constitution does it say anything about public schools? Diversity is actually destroying our country from within. We are individuals, yet we are also a nation that should be coming together as one, not splitting into separate groups. That whole “united we stand, divided we fall” thing is quite accurate.

And, he said, since history “includes instances of … official discrimination against gays and lesbians … it is reasonable for public educators to teach elementary school students … different sexual orientations.”

Is he comparing the parents who object to Nazi Germany?

If they disagree, “the Parkers and Wirthlins may send their children to a private school …[or] may also educate their children at home,” the judge said.

And still pay taxes to support public schools? Doesn’t seem quite right, does it.

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13 Comments »

  1. You are right that the school had no right to do this without informing the parents and letting them decide, but you are wrong when you say there is nothing normal about homosexuality. The fact is the act is as old as mankind, and just because some book declares it wrong does not make it so. And I know I will piss off some people by referring to the Bible as some book, but I don’t care.

    My girlfriend is fairly certain that her oldest son will turn out gay, and if anyone would ever come up to him and tell him he is not normal for something he has no control over deserves to be labled as the bigot that they are, and I am sorry Kate that is exactly what it is, Bigotry

    Comment by Sean — March 15, 2007 @ 4:04

  2. The lifestyle isn’t normal. The kid is probably a normal kid. Not the same thing.

    Comment by olbroad — March 15, 2007 @ 4:11

  3. I don’t see what is so outrageous about labeling something that deviates from human biology (meaning, straight sex has a biological purpose, gay sex has none) as “abnormal.”

    There are all kinds of “abnormalities” that we have no control over – it can be something as simple as nearsightedness – and even if it’s something as severe as paralysis or mental disorder, when somebody calls a given trait “abnormal,” he’s not saying anything about the moral worth of the INDIVIDUAL who holds that trait (unless he’s an extreme-Left loon like Peter Singer).

    Comment by Calvin — March 15, 2007 @ 4:59

  4. Sorry Calvin, but I find that a weak arguement. If you find ones actions immoral, you will find the individual commiting the immoral, and I believe that is an unfair prejudice directed at the gay community.

    On a side note, I have always wondered this, and maybe you two can answer. Why is Religion not considered indoctrination? I can understand the arguement for someone who “finds religion” later in life, because they have made the conscious choice. But for Children whose parents force them to go to church, or to CCD, early in life, rather then let them wait until they are old enough to decide for themselves, isn’t that indoctrinating your children?

    Comment by Sean — March 15, 2007 @ 5:20

  5. “If you find ones actions immoral, you will find the individual commiting the immoral.”

    Immoral, but not any less deserving of our love as an indivudal. Separating sin from sinner has always been one of the many, many beautiful things about Christianity.

    Sure, you could classify anything a parent teaches a child as “indoctrination.” But that’s a parent’s rightful – and essential – role: to instil his/her values in a child to prepare him for life and to transmit that wisdom to the next generation.

    The only time I object to indoctrination is when outside forces that parents have little control over, such as public schools, try to usurp a parent’s rightful role in a child’s upbringing and subsitute in its own values, especially with younger, more impressionable children.

    Comment by Calvin — March 15, 2007 @ 5:33

  6. Religion is manmade, so yeah, it could be considered indoctrination. It’s faith that is the priority. 🙂 No, that’s a great answer, but it’s been a rough day. 🙂 Without direction, we are pretty much, well, directionless. LOL Taking kids to church is a way for parents to guide the young’uns on a certain path, preferably away from the things that get us into trouble.

    Comment by olbroad — March 15, 2007 @ 5:35

  7. My parents took me to church only once when I was a child….My behavior in said church that day was pretty much the reason they never took me again. And although they say they regret not taking us, I don’t think they have anything to apologize for. My sister works a veternary assisstant, My brother is in the Army, and aside from my liberal viewpoints on the world, my parents think I turned out fine. My point is you can still turn out a good person without religion, and conversely you can turn out to be a horrible person with religion…Pedophile Priests come to mind

    Comment by Sean — March 15, 2007 @ 5:57

  8. Well, I suppose you turned out ok. LOL But we’ll still keep working on those liberal tendencies. 🙂

    Comment by olbroad — March 15, 2007 @ 7:36

  9. Stop the ACLU Blogburst: District gags 14-year-olds after ‘gay’ indoctrination

    I find this outrageous.  The students were given a class without parental consent and then encourage via contract to conceal the class formt heir parents after the fact.

    The schools are way too eager to violate the parental rights of thei…

    Trackback by Leaning Straight Up — March 15, 2007 @ 8:01

  10. Seriously – try reading the story from a site that isn’t laugh out loud ridiculous. The slant from the source you’ve quoted is absurd.

    Did anyone see the new South Park this week? The religious camp trying to “cure” kids of their gayness, making them feel immoral and wrong, leading to repeated suicide… great stuff.

    Comment by Jayce — March 16, 2007 @ 8:12

  11. “Where in the constitution does it say anything about public schools?”

    If it was a state judge, he was most likely referring to the state constitution. Wisconsin has similar language which states that all children are entitled to a public education.

    Comment by Nick — March 16, 2007 @ 9:03

  12. My point is you can still turn out a good person without religion, and conversely you can turn out to be a horrible person with religion

    You’ll like this quote from Steven Weinberg…

    “With or without (religion) you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

    Comment by Jayce — March 16, 2007 @ 10:21

  13. Jayce….LOL, Your right I do like that quote

    Comment by Sean — March 16, 2007 @ 10:47


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